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	<title>Comments on: Calling all Demographers</title>
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		<title>By: gabrielrossman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 04:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or it could just be that there&#039;s a single citation to &quot;Plato. -380. Πολιτεία.&quot; or something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or it could just be that there&#8217;s a single citation to &#8220;Plato. -380. Πολιτεία.&#8221; or something.</p>
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		<title>By: jimi adams</title>
		<link>http://permut.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/calling-all-demographers/#comment-1132</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, special issues are definitely potentially important especially for things like this. That doesn&#039;t appear to be accounting for these two cases. There&#039;s only one i see explicitly as a &quot;stand alone&quot; special issue in either of those years - on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0032472031000145916&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;British Demography&lt;/a&gt; which doesn&#039;t appear to be accounting for the 1991 blip (the citation ages from those papers are actually younger than the over-represented slice from the 20s, i.e., didn&#039;t seem to be doing much to shift the distribution). So more &quot;hidden&quot; symposia are what i&#039;m hoping to dig up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, special issues are definitely potentially important especially for things like this. That doesn&#8217;t appear to be accounting for these two cases. There&#8217;s only one i see explicitly as a &#8220;stand alone&#8221; special issue in either of those years &#8211; on <a href="http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0032472031000145916" rel="nofollow">British Demography</a> which doesn&#8217;t appear to be accounting for the 1991 blip (the citation ages from those papers are actually younger than the over-represented slice from the 20s, i.e., didn&#8217;t seem to be doing much to shift the distribution). So more &#8220;hidden&#8221; symposia are what i&#8217;m hoping to dig up.</p>
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		<title>By: jimi adams</title>
		<link>http://permut.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/calling-all-demographers/#comment-1131</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 1991 blip definitely is coming from before 1931. Closer to the teens and early 20s. I&#039;m guessing those years would help point you to the story i&#039;m currently trying to dig through.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1991 blip definitely is coming from before 1931. Closer to the teens and early 20s. I&#8217;m guessing those years would help point you to the story i&#8217;m currently trying to dig through.</p>
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		<title>By: jimi adams</title>
		<link>http://permut.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/calling-all-demographers/#comment-1130</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, i missed your point the first time. That paper in &lt;em&gt;PDR&lt;/em&gt; may go a long way to accounting for that blip (needed an excess ~100 papers with citations in the 20s). I had been hoping it was something (more interesting?) like HIV researchers who were citing the 1918 flu epidemic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, i missed your point the first time. That paper in <em>PDR</em> may go a long way to accounting for that blip (needed an excess ~100 papers with citations in the 20s). I had been hoping it was something (more interesting?) like HIV researchers who were citing the 1918 flu epidemic.</p>
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		<title>By: James Holland Jones</title>
		<link>http://permut.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/calling-all-demographers/#comment-1129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Holland Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But those are possibly the years that are going to inform the founding of the association, no?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But those are possibly the years that are going to inform the founding of the association, no?</p>
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		<title>By: James Holland Jones</title>
		<link>http://permut.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/calling-all-demographers/#comment-1126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Holland Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PAA was founded in 1931, making 1991 the 70th anniversary and probably accounting for that outlier. I know that there are a couple of review papers addressing this (e.g., Hodgson&#039;s PDR paper on the ideological origins of PAA) and such. Review papers can definitely skew citation statistics so a year where there are several of them, all citing documents surrounding the founding of the association may be driving it. Not so sure about 1988...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PAA was founded in 1931, making 1991 the 70th anniversary and probably accounting for that outlier. I know that there are a couple of review papers addressing this (e.g., Hodgson&#8217;s PDR paper on the ideological origins of PAA) and such. Review papers can definitely skew citation statistics so a year where there are several of them, all citing documents surrounding the founding of the association may be driving it. Not so sure about 1988&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bishop</title>
		<link>http://permut.wordpress.com/2012/09/17/calling-all-demographers/#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Bishop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cool puzzle jimi!  I wonder if a special journal volume dedicated to something which requires older references could pull the means up like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool puzzle jimi!  I wonder if a special journal volume dedicated to something which requires older references could pull the means up like that.</p>
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